Minutes of the Chouteau Grotto Meeting



            Wednesday, September 3, 2003



            The meeting was called to order at 7:05 PM.



            14 members were present.



            Treasurer's Report: $1226.61 in the coffers



            MSS Report. The Director was not present. The next meeting is

            September 13, 2003 in Rolla



            Foresight Editor: Not present



            Quartermaster 's Report: Mike Morgan reports our inventory as

            follows:



             6 helmets with chinstraps

            6 working headlamps

            1 100 foot fiberglass tape measure

            1 cable ladder

            1 Boone Country plat book

            1 Suunto compass in need of repair

            1 Clinometer (presently missing)

            1 600 foot rappelling rope

            1 bat sticker

            4 chin straps





            There was discussion on the checkout system for Grotto equipment,

            Tentatively, the rules will include the following; these will be

            fine-tuned by Joe Dom.

            -borrowed items must be returned within 30 days

            -there will be a cleaning fee for equipment returned in dirty

            condition.

            -you must provide your own batteries

            -you will be expected to pay for damaged equipment (beyond ordinary

            wear and tear).

            -there will be a deposit on equipment

            -anyone using the rope will be expected to have previous experience

            on rope. A log of rope use should be kept.

            -a liability waiver will be drawn up for use of the rope, hopefully

            with the assistance of Kirsten Alvey's father. The Grotto cannot

            accept liability for any problems with the rope.



            Generally, there will a special set of rules for use of the rope.



            Mike asked Grotto members present if we might cut the rope into 400

            and 200 foot lengths for easier cleaning and storage. Kevin proposed

            cutting it into equal 300 foot lengths.

            Mike will look for more feedback at the ropework session on the

            Grotto's campout weekend later this month. If there is no feedback,

            Mike may proceed with the cut as he judges best. Mike will send the

            compass back and get it repaired for about $55. A new one costs

$110.



            Kirsten Alvey will be the Landowner Relations representative for the

            Grotto. There will be a generic liability waiver for Grotto members

            to give to landowners.



            Hunter's Cave Emergency Cache: Rita and Rick were supposed to pick

            out the first aid kit, but there's been no report from them. Joe Dom

            will go ahead and buy the first aid kit. On Saturday, September 13

            this will be placed in the cave.



            New Business and Upcoming Events:



            We need to start planning the winter campout now. There has been a

            suggestion to go to Arkansas.



            MCKC will be gating Cookstove and Holmes Hollow caves. These belong

            to a private landowner. Contact Joe if you want to help; he'll put

            you in touch with Jim Kaufman.



            Grotto campout: weekend of September 12-14 at Rock Bridge Memorial

            State Park. The use fee for overnight camping is $1 per person.

            Activities will kick off with rope work at Capen Park on Friday at

            about 4:30 PM. On Saturday at 9 AM there will be a stream team

            cleanup in Three Creeks; meet at the south parking lot (reached by

            Myers Road) at 9 AM. Meet back at the parking lot at noon if you

            want to go on the Hunter's Cave trip to place the emergency cache.

            That trip will be limited to 10; there were four signed up as of the

            time of this meeting. The cave trip will end around 5 PM. The picnic

            dinner at the campground will start around 6:30 PM. Any

            entertainment ideas are welcome (there is no electricity on site,

            FYI). Meal is pot luck, BYOB, etc; this is not the chicken roast of

            yore.



            Fall MVOR, October 3-5, hosted by MSN Spelunkers in Buckhorn.



            TAG, October 9-13: Mike Morgan, Rick Walk, Mike Walk will attend.



            The MCKC Fall Board meeting will be on September 20, in Rolla. Dave

            Webster says all are welcome.



            Cave Reports:



            Kirsten Alvey: Perkins Cave is gated; she visited right after it was

            gated. It was a great trip. Her kids did a lot of caving with

            Kirsten this summer, including in Berry and Kirby caves.



            Joe Hobbs talked about the course he taught this summer in Belize,

            "The Geography of Ancient Maya Caves." Joe and 8 students from MU

            and Western Missouri State U. mapped and excavated a single cave

            used by the ancient Maya in the Classic period, and also visited a

            number of other caves used by the Maya. Joe did two short studies of

            modern Maya uses of caves in Guatemala, and plans to do followup

            work on that topic next summer.



            Amber Spohn worked at Talking Rocks this summer, where she was paid

            to talk about caves! She had a big trip two weeks ago to Breakdown

            cave.



            Scott was recently at Green Cave in the Meramec State Park with his

            sons.



            The meeting was adjourned at 7:58 PM.



            Program: Joe Dom did a slide show on Steam Team Monitoring

            Activities, depicting the organisms that may be collected in our

            area. The objective is to look for organisms that are indicative of

            the health of Missouri streams. Our role as stream team is

            important; we serve as citizen volunteers and activists providing

            valuable data to state biologists. The MDC puts the information in a

            database, and uses the data to set priorities for actions, including

            listing and delisting.



            Respectfully submitted (with many thanks to Marck Schneider and

            others who covered my duties this summer),



            Joe Hobbs, Secretary